Curtin’s Cast

Welcome to Curtin’s Cast, the John Curtin Research Centre’s podcast of politics, culture and ideas brought to you by JCRC Executive Director Nick Dyrenfurth and Redbridge Director and former Victorian Labor assistant secretary Kos Samaras. Each fortnight we bring you the freshest and most challenging conversations from the world of Australian and global politics with leaders, activists, and thinkers.

Episodes

4 days ago

49 min

Freddie Hayward on America’s ‘Summer of Socialism’ and 9/11, 25 Years On
Something unusual is stirring inside America’s Democratic Party.
Across the northern summer, young progressive and democratic-socialist candidates have been knocking over establishment Democrats — raising the possibility that the American left is finally experiencing its own Tea Party or MAGA-style insurgency.
Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras are joined from Washington by Freddie Hayward, US Correspondent for the New Statesman, to discuss what he has called “America’s summer of socialism”.
How socialist are these insurgents really? Are Medicare for all, stronger unions, affordable housing and higher taxes on billionaires revolutionary ideas — or simply conventional social democracy made radical by America’s unusually right-shifted political culture?
They discuss the legacy of Bernie Sanders, Zohran Mamdani and the DSA; Abdul El-Sayed’s insurgent Senate campaign; affordability and economic insecurity; organised labour and the possibility of a new alliance between unions and the socialist left; whether progressives have moved beyond “woke 1.0”; the political impact of Gaza; and why anti-establishment movements have generally proved more successful on the right than the left across Western democracies.
They also compare developments in the United States with Britain and Australia, where Labor’s relationship with organised labour and the Greens’ electoral experience point to very different paths for left-wing insurgent politics.
Finally, with America approaching the 25th anniversary of September 11, Freddie reflects on how the attacks are remembered a quarter-century later — and whether 9/11 still represents a genuinely shared American national memory.

4 days ago

49 min

Sep 1, 2026

32 min

They’re the generation politics forgot — and they may now be among the angriest in Australia.
Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras go deep on the latest RedBridge/AFR generational polling, which has One Nation at an extraordinary 35 per cent among Gen X, Labor on 28 and the Coalition languishing at 19. Even more strikingly, Gen X voters split almost evenly between Anthony Albanese and Pauline Hanson for preferred prime minister, while Angus Taylor trails far behind.
Why is a generation raised through recession, restructuring, globalisation, deindustrialisation, the housing boom, the GFC and Covid turning away from the political establishment? Kos explores the Gen X “sandwich”: mortgages still to pay, adult children who cannot afford to leave home, ageing parents needing care and retirement no longer looking quite as secure as promised.
Nick and Kos ask whether the revolt is driven by economics, disappointed expectations or a potent mix of material insecurity and cultural unease — and why Gen X appears willing to trust Labor on some services while turning overwhelmingly to One Nation on immigration.
They also examine the Victorian numbers and what they mean for Ben Carroll’s Labor government, the Coalition and One Nation ahead of November.
Is Gen X moving right — or has the generation that did what it was told simply become politically homeless?

Sep 1, 2026

32 min

Aug 24, 2026

35 min

Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras go deep on the two latest RedBridge/AFR polls and what they reveal about the extraordinary reshaping of Australian politics: One Nation’s surge, the Coalition’s weakness, Labor’s low primary vote and whether voters are moving towards a durable three-bloc system or simply renting their votes in protest.
They also unpack Melongate and what the episode says about political outrage, media consumption and where Australians are actually getting their news.
Then it’s Victoria. With Ben Carroll attempting to reset Labor around working people, cost of living and services, can he turn around the government’s fortunes before November? Is Jess Wilson becoming a credible change agent? And can One Nation really sustain a 20-plus primary vote when voters have to choose an actual government?

Aug 24, 2026

35 min

Aug 11, 2026

42 min


This week on Curtin’s Cast, Nick Dyrenfurth is joined by award-winning historian Ross McMullin, author of the definitive history of the Australian Labor Party, The Light on the Hill.
Thirty-five years after its original publication, McMullin has returned to his landmark work, updating Labor’s extraordinary story through Keating, Rudd, Gillard and the leadership wars to Anthony Albanese’s historic 2025 victory.
What has changed about Labor — and what has endured across 135 years? Where do Keating and Albanese sit in the Labor pantheon? What was the party’s greatest mistake? And who are the underrated, overrated and forgotten characters of Labor history?
A fascinating long-form conversation about Labor, history, leadership and the craft of writing political history.

Aug 11, 2026

42 min

Aug 4, 2026

57 min

This week on Curtin's Cast, Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras are joined by one of Australia's foremost political journalists and historians, Paul Kelly, Paul Kelly, Editor-at-Large, The Australian and author of the new book, The Twilight of Exceptionalism: The Liberal and Conservative Era (Melbourne University Publishing).
Has Australia entered a fundamentally new political era? Why has reform become so difficult? What explains the decline of trust in institutions, the fragmentation of politics, and the rise of populism?
The conversation explores:
The end of Australia's "exceptional" political era
Why the Abbott, Turnbull and Morrison governments failed
The future of the Liberal Party, Hansonism and the Teals
Anthony Albanese, Labor and the coming Victorian election
The changing nature of political leadership and journalism
Whether Australian democracy can rediscover its reforming spirit
A wide-ranging discussion on Australia's past, present and future with one of the country's leading political thinkers.
Buy Paul's book here: https://www.mup.com.au/books/the-twilight-of-exceptionalism/9780522882339

Aug 4, 2026

57 min

Jul 27, 2026

31 min

🚨 WE'RE BACK! Curtin's Cast returns – EARLY RELEASE 🎙️
Victoria's election campaign has just been blown wide open.
In a dramatic day of escalating political tension, Deputy Premier Ben Carroll has advised Premier Jacinta Allan that he intends to be a candidate for the Labor leadership should a spill occur.
With just four months until polling day, is Victoria now heading towards both an election and a Labor leadership crisis?
In Episode 63, Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras break down:
🔴 The latest Victorian polling📉 Labor's deteriorating position⚠️ The leadership speculation engulfing Spring Street📈 One Nation's extraordinary surge and whether it holds🔵 Why the Liberals still can't put the election away🇦🇺 A quick federal polling check-in and what it means for Anthony Albanese
This is one of the most timely Curtin's Cast episodes we've recorded.
🎧 Listen wherever you get your podcasts.
#CurtinsCast #VicPol #SpringSt #AusPol #VictorianElection #Labor #OneNation #Polling #Politics

Jul 27, 2026

31 min

Jun 23, 2026

43 min

Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras are joined by acclaimed author, pianist and incoming ANAM Artistic Director Anna Goldsworthy to discuss her new Quarterly Essay, The God We Made: The Threat and Promise of Artificial Intelligence out now with Schwartz Media
Is AI another technological revolution, or something far more profound? What remains uniquely human in an age of machines? Why do we still crave imperfection, authenticity and live experience? And are we repeating the mistakes we made with the industrial revolution and social media?
From music, art and education to work, politics and existential risk, this wide-ranging conversation explores how artificial intelligence is reshaping our world — and what it means to remain human within it.
Listen wherever you get your podcast goodies!

Jun 23, 2026

43 min

Jun 16, 2026

35 min

Could the 2026 Victorian election mark the beginning of the end of Australia's century-old two-party system? One Nation is now leading or tied in most national polls. Leadership whispers around Victorian Labor Premier Jacinta Allan are growing. But is this bigger than one premier — or even one party?
On Curtin's Cast Episode 61 Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras unpack:
🔥 Why replacing leaders won't stop deeper political forces📊 What Redbridge modelling reveals about Labor & Coalition heartland seats🗳️ Why One Nation's rise threatens BOTH major parties💥 Why moral denunciation alone won't reconnect voters
🚨 If Victoria can produce a One Nation breakthrough, nowhere in Australia is immune.  Episode 61 of Curtin's Cast is out now! 🎧

Jun 16, 2026

35 min

Jun 9, 2026

44 min

This week on Curtin’s Cast, Nick Dyrenfurth sits down with political strategist and campaigner Ed Coper, author of the new book Angertainment: How Social Media Outrage Ruined Everything.
Over more than two decades, Ed has worked with an extraordinary range of political, civic and business leaders and movements, from Malala Yousafzai and Richard Branson to trade unions, climate campaigns, advocacy organisations and the Teal independents. He was also part of the team that helped build GetUp into one of Australia's most influential grassroots campaigning organisations.
In this conversation, Nick and Ed explore how social media platforms, algorithms and the attention economy have transformed politics, media and public life, rewarding outrage over persuasion and division over dialogue.
They discuss:
• What exactly is “angertainment” and why outrage has become a business model;
• Whether both Left and Right are vulnerable to the attention economy;
• Young men, identity, Andrew Tate and algorithmic rabbit holes;
• Which politicians understand social media best — and why;
Can democracy survive the age of angertainment? Ed Coper joins Curtin’s Cast to unpack one of the defining political and cultural challenges of our time.
Buy Ed's book here:
https://www.readings.com.au/product/9781761636691/angertainment--ed-coper--2026--9781761636691
 

Jun 9, 2026

44 min

Jun 2, 2026

35 min

One Nation is now Australia's most popular political party. Pauline Hanson is Australia's most popular political leader. And new RedBridge–Accent MRP modelling suggests the Australian political system may be fragmenting faster than either major party understands.
This week on Curtin's Cast, Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras unpack the extraordinary polling behind One Nation's rise, the collapse of traditional party loyalties, and what it means for Labor, the Coalition and Australia's political future. Is this simply another protest vote, or are we witnessing the biggest political realignment in modern Australian history?
They explore why millions of Australians feel they're getting poorer in silence, how housing insecurity and falling living standards are reshaping political behaviour, why Labor's budget reforms have produced such a complicated reaction, and why the Coalition is failing to benefit from Labor's losses.
Plus: could Pauline Hanson really become prime minister? What would need to happen for One Nation to become a governing force? And is Victoria about to provide a preview of Australia's fragmented political future?
A provocative conversation about economic insecurity, political dealignment and realignment, institutional distrust and the forces reshaping Australian democracy.
Check out Episode 59 via Apple, Spotify and Youtube

Jun 2, 2026

35 min

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